Return to Optional Task. Bulletin 17B | Systematic Record.


Historical event information (along with the weighted moments adjustment procedures contained within Bulletin 17B) can be used to both add important information and place the systematic information into a longer context.  Three historical events occurring in 1897, 1919, and 1926 are available for the Big Sandy River at Bruceton, TN gaging station.  This information can be incorporated within HEC-SSP.

Create a New Bulletin 17 Analysis

  • To begin, select Analysis | New | Bulletin 17 Analysis.
  • Name the new analysis “BigSandyRiver_Historical_B17B” and add an adequate description.
  • Select the “BigSandyRiver” data set.
  • Select “17B Methods” within the Method for Computing Statistics and Confidence Limits panel.
  • Utilize the default selections of Use Station Skew, Single Grubbs-Beck low outlier test, and Median plotting position.

Add Additional Options

  • Move to the Options tab.
  • Check the option to Use Historic Data.
  • Enter a Start Year of 1897.
  • The 1897, 1919, and 1926 events are estimated to have peak flow rates of 25000, 21000, and 18500 cfs, respectively. Enter the necessary information into the Historic Events table.
  • The Options tab should look similar to the following figure.

BigSandyRiver_Historical_B17B Options Tab

  • Click Compute.

Analyze Results

  • Click Plot Curve. This will result in the computed curve, 5- and 95-percent confidence limits, and observed events being plotted.
  • Close the computed curve window.
  • Move to the Tabular Results Note the computed curve, 5-, and 95-percent confidence limits for all of the desired frequency ordinates, the moments/parameters of the Log Pearson Type III fit to the data, and other data related to the analysis.

Question:  How did the inclusion of additional historical information affect the Log Pearson Type III parameters (mean, standard deviation, and skew)?  How does this affect the 1-percent chance exceedance flow rate?

The mean, standard deviation, and skew are all larger when historical information is included and the statistics are computed using Bulletin 17B procedures.  The BigSandyRiver_Historical_B17B 1-percent chance exceedance flow rate is approximately 4400 cfs larger than the BigSandyRiver_Systematic_B17B results, as shown in the following figure.

BigSandyRiver_Systematic_B17B vs BigSandyRiver_Historical_B17B


Question:  How do the Log Pearson Type III parameters (mean, standard deviation, and skew) compare between the BigSandyRiver_Historical_B17B and BigSandyRiver_Historical_B17C analyses?  Why are they different?  How do these differences affect the 1-percent chance exceedance flow rate?

The mean and standard deviation are essentially the same between the two analyses.  However, the computed at-site skew is different.  Specifically, the at-site skew (and adopted skew) is more negative within the BigSandyRiver_Historical_B17C analysis which affects the flow rates for smaller exceedance probabilities.  The BigSandyRiver_Historical_B17C computed 1-percent chance exceedance flow rate is approximately 450 cfs less than the corresponding B17B analysis, as shown in the following figure.

BigSandyRiver_Historical_B17C and BigSandyRiver_Historical_B17B Results


Question:  In your opinion, how well do Bulletin 17B procedures (i.e. Single Grubbs-Beck test, conditional probability adjustment, etc.) compare against Bulletin 17C procedures (i.e. Expected Moments Algorithm, Multiple Grubbs-Beck test, flow ranges, etc.) when using all of the available systematic and historical data?

This is a subjective question and meant to incite discussion.  Bulletin 17C contains numerous enhancements over Bulletin 17B including:

  • adoption of a generalized representation of flood data that allows for interval and censored data types,
  • a new method, called the Expected Moments Algorithm (Cohn et al., 1997 and Cohn et al., 2001), which extends the method of moments so that it can accommodate interval data,
  • a generalized approach to identification of low outliers in flood data (Cohn et al., 2013) and,
  • an improved method for computing confidence intervals.


Project Files

Download the final project files here:

B17C_Workshop_finish.zip